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Chicken Fried > Jim

January 13, 2008

The following is the end of a Busta Olney blog where he advocates Jim Rice for the HOF. Which begs the question, why isn’t Jigsaw in the baseball hall-of-fame? HE’S SCARY TOO!!!111!!!11!

A lot of the Rice critics say the focus on his best years — 1975-1986 — is arbitrary. Well, not really. Those are the years in which he was at his best, when he built his Hall of Fame candidacy, and considering that a player must have 10 years in the big leagues to qualify for HOF consideration, focusing on a 12-year span is hardly a cherry-pick. And in that time, in some power statistics — maybe not Adjusted OPS+ — Rice was the best in his league.

Nick Shlain: Right it isn’t cherry picking to look at those ten years for Rice because Rice was only a regular for 12 years and those were his best ten. But, it is cherry picking to only compare Rice to players in those years. ’75-’86 is arbitrary. It is a random ten year samping. If he was playing now (or any other era for that matter) would he be anything special? Or would he be the same guy who had six good years, six decline years and stopping playing regularly at age 34?

While I’d generally agree that to focus on building a Hall of Famer’s credentials around a single year of MVP voting might be dubious, the numbers cited in Friday’s column accounts for hundreds of votes from every AL city over more than a decade.

NS: Might be? 

A lot of writers who watched Rice play daily, at the time he was on the field — rather than through the time-machine prism of Adjusted OPS+ — thought he was pretty damn good. (Keep in mind, most writers will talk to players, managers and coaches throughout the season as they formulate their ballots.)

NS: You aren’t seriously trying to say that Jim Rice is a hall-of-famer because a bunch of idiot writers thought he was ‘pretty damn good’? Are you? 

If you want to quibble with the fact that he won the award in 1978, or with his placement in some particular year, OK, I get that. But to ignore the MVP voting entirely, as if it isn’t at least some kind of barometer of his play over the course of his career, is embarrassing. This is like saying, “Hey, forget the Oscar voting of the 1950s. Marlon Brando was clearly overrated.”

NS: MVP voting is irrelevant because it is subjective. It is not like HRs, a fact. You can be by far the best player in the league and lose a few MVP votes because two writers are from Detroit and apparently didn’t watch any other games that year.

That is an awful comparison with the Marlon Brando reference. There isn’t statistical information when it comes to acting. It is 100% subjective opinion. I can say Brando isn’t HOF-worthy, but have nothing to back it up with but my opinion. But, I can say Rice isn’t HOF-worthy because his WARP3 is 83.2. See what I did there? Yes, that was using facts.

Look, I’ve never met Jim Rice, didn’t grow up a Red Sox fan, don’t think he is one of the very elite players of all time. I understand why someone wouldn’t vote for him (but don’t agree). But to portray his career as entirely unworthy of Hall of Fame consideration is silly.

NS: Then I’m silly. But, so is an argument predicated on subjective opinions from bias writers, a random sampling of data and shunning statistical analysis.


Busta full of crap, Joba to be in rotation

December 24, 2007

“We plan to have him go into spring training as a starter,” GM Brian Cashman said.

Hank Steinbrenner: “At this point, we’re all planning to … it’s everybody’s plan to start him as a starter, and that’s Joba’s preference, too. He said it on ESPN. I know he’d do anything and give it his best, but that’s his preference. As far as me and Cashman and [Mark] Newman and [Damon] Oppenheimer, I think we all want him in the rotation.”

So, Busta was wrong, Joba won’t start the year in the bullpen. HA! Here are a few other interesting quotes:

“Maxed-out innings are going to be an issue for all of them, all of the young ones. I don’t know how thats going to be accomplished, but we’ll manage it.” — senior vice president of baseball operations Mark Newman

It’s possible that Chamberlain could spend some time in the bullpen to help cap his innings, Newman said. That’s not in the early-season plans, though.“I’m not even saying he’s going to be in there at all,” Newman said. “I can’t say he’ll be in there for a day or a minute. He could be at some point to limit the innings, but that’s up to Joe [Girardi].”

“Oh, yeah, we’ve come a long way in two years,” Cashman said. “It’s taken a lot of hard work to get it to this point, but you can never rest on that aspect. All the work you put in in getting players pays off five years down the road.”

“All three of those guys (Joba, Phil, Ian) , they want it,” Eiland said. “They’re very competitive, and they want the bright lights to shine on them. We can’t expect all three of them to go out and win 20 games, but I think they’ll be successful.” (Source)

I like it when the guys who know what they are talking about in our organization talk. Like Cash, Newman, Eiland, Oppenheimer and Nardi.

Joba to begin ’08 in the pen?

December 22, 2007

Heard this: If all goes well in spring training for the Yankees, Joba Chamberlain is likely to start next season in the Yankees’ bullpen, as part of the team’s effort to limit his innings. Chamberlain will go to spring training and, at the outset, prepare to pitch out of the rotation, along with five other rotation candidates: Chien-Ming Wang, Andy Pettitte, Phil Hughes, Mike Mussina and Ian Kennedy. Assuming that none of the other five has a physical or performance breakdown, Chamberlain would then open 2008 in the bullpen, as a set-up man, for at least the start of the season — under the Joba Rules.

The Yankees want to restrict the number of innings Chamberlain throws, and working him out of the bullpen for at least a couple of months will allow them to do that. Chamberlain may return to the rotation sometime in the middle of the season, depending on the Yankees’ needs. (Source: Busta Onley’s Insider Blog)

First, we can all agree that the Yankees do need to find a way to limit innings not only for Joba, but for Hughes and Kennedy as well.

Is the best way to do that by starting the season with Joba in the pen? I don’t think so. How does that do anything for Hughes and Kennedy? Joba isn’t the only young pitcher on this team.

An easier way to do this would be to have a six man rotation and skip guys, but that may not be an option if Moose is forced into retirement after April via being terrible at pitching a baseball.

Also, what does Busta mean by ‘heard this’? The Yankees have an owner who will tell you exactly what they are thinking/about to do in the front office, why doesn’t he just ask him?

Steroids make Busta mad

December 19, 2007


Still hope for JohaNY?

December 5, 2007

One insider believes that despite what the Yankees are saying in the press, the deal with the Twins for Johan Santana is anything but dead.

“This is their M.O. in every way,” he said. “I’ve been dealing with them for years on stuff like this, and they say it’s not going to happen, and they wait for things to die down, and that’s when they pounce. I bet they still get him.” (Source: BP)’s Busta Olney noted that there were missed “deadlines” on previous Yankee trades such as Chuck Knoblauch and Roger Clemens. So, maybe it isn’t over yet.

Hughes to be included in Santana trade?

December 1, 2007

From’s Busta Olney: 

A pivotal sticking point in the Yankees‘ trade talks with Minnesota about JohaNY Santana is the question of whether New York will include talented right-hander Phil Hughes in their offer.

And, within the internal discussions in New York’s front office, there is a sense that the team is leaning toward putting Hughes in the deal.

“If they put Hughes in the deal,” said one person familiar with the talks, “that could get it done for Minnesota.” (Source)

This is not good news. I’m praying for bs right now.

This is what it is right now.